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	<title>Comments on: More Bang for Your Buck with PVSCSI (Part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: Utilization Review Management</title>
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		<dc:creator>Utilization Review Management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;This was great....&lt;/strong&gt;

I saw this really good post today....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>This was great&#8230;.</strong></p>
<p>I saw this really good post today&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Passed the VCP-410 with a 481 score! &#124; HyperViZor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Passed the VCP-410 with a 481 score! &#124; HyperViZor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The blog posts from my fellow bloggers are also very useful; I can tell you that I answered one question about the PVSCSI from Scott Sauer&#039;s awesome article here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The blog posts from my fellow bloggers are also very useful; I can tell you that I answered one question about the PVSCSI from Scott Sauer&#39;s awesome article here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wonder why you are seeing such huge differences in performance. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did some IOmeter testing (With ESX 4.0 non-U1) comparing the LSI logic parallel and pvscsi adapter, using the specifications from the Open unofficial storage performance thread (&lt;a href=&quot;http://communities.vmware.com/thread/197844?start=150&amp;tstart=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://communities.vmware.com/thread/197844?sta...&lt;/a&gt;) and saw only very minor differences. &lt;br&gt;Other posts there with LSI logic parallel and pvscsi suggested a similar behavior, so I&#039;m really a bit confused about how you managed to produce such significant differences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One thing that bugs me a tiny bit is, if I want to boot up a VM with, say a live Linux for troubleshooting or whatever reason, I would have to change the controller beforehand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wonder why you are seeing such huge differences in performance. </p>
<p>I did some IOmeter testing (With ESX 4.0 non-U1) comparing the LSI logic parallel and pvscsi adapter, using the specifications from the Open unofficial storage performance thread (<a href="http://communities.vmware.com/thread/197844?start=150&amp;tstart=0" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/communities.vmware.com/thread/197844?start=150_amp_tstart=0&amp;referer=');"></a><a href="http://communities.vmware.com/thread/197844?sta.." rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/communities.vmware.com/thread/197844?sta..&amp;referer=');">http://communities.vmware.com/thread/197844?sta..</a>.) and saw only very minor differences. <br />Other posts there with LSI logic parallel and pvscsi suggested a similar behavior, so I&#39;m really a bit confused about how you managed to produce such significant differences.</p>
<p>One thing that bugs me a tiny bit is, if I want to boot up a VM with, say a live Linux for troubleshooting or whatever reason, I would have to change the controller beforehand.</p>
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		<title>By: Hany Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hany Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Scott .. keep them coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Scott .. keep them coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Vladan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I change from buslogic parralel to pvscsi I receive a nice BSOD... that&#039;s all... -:(.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I really look forward to see how to fix this for existing VMs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I change from buslogic parralel to pvscsi I receive a nice BSOD&#8230; that&#39;s all&#8230; -:(.</p>
<p>I really look forward to see how to fix this for existing VMs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: timothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice info! Seems i&#039;ll be using and recommending that pvscsi more often ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice info! Seems i&#39;ll be using and recommending that pvscsi more often <img src='http://www.virtualinsanity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: scottsauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottsauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suttoi, no vmotion is now fully supported with pvscsi.  The only limitation that was a show stopper prior to update 1 was the lack of support on the operating system disk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suttoi, no vmotion is now fully supported with pvscsi.  The only limitation that was a show stopper prior to update 1 was the lack of support on the operating system disk.</p>
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		<title>By: suttoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>suttoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any limitations imposed on VMs which use the pvSCSI driver? &lt;br&gt;i.e. more direct connection therefore no vMotion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any limitations imposed on VMs which use the pvSCSI driver? <br />i.e. more direct connection therefore no vMotion?</p>
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		<title>By: scottsauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottsauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim!  Part 2 I plan on posting how to migrate existing vm&#039;s into a PVSCSI config then how to build out new with the F6 option on boot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chad,&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the comments, I was seeing a lot of variation on my tests.  I tried to capture the average IOmeter results, but I figured it might have been the Clariion cache.  Thanks for the heads up on the host side cache.  I would agree that&#039;s yet another benefit of the paravirtual driver.&lt;br&gt;Sad that you have to leave a disclaimer of who you work for on a simple post like this but I guess that is the way it works now a days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim!  Part 2 I plan on posting how to migrate existing vm&#39;s into a PVSCSI config then how to build out new with the F6 option on boot.</p>
<p>Chad,<br />Thanks for the comments, I was seeing a lot of variation on my tests.  I tried to capture the average IOmeter results, but I figured it might have been the Clariion cache.  Thanks for the heads up on the host side cache.  I would agree that&#39;s yet another benefit of the paravirtual driver.<br />Sad that you have to leave a disclaimer of who you work for on a simple post like this but I guess that is the way it works now a days.</p>
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		<title>By: chadsakac</title>
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		<dc:creator>chadsakac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disclosure (I&#039;m an EMC employee)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Scott - we&#039;ve been doing lots of testing with pvSCSI - it is awesome, as you point out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The one thing to watch out for is that we&#039;ve seen a lot of variability in the test results - and it seems (need to triple validate this) that the pvSCSI does some host-side read caching.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That doesn&#039;t make it bad (in fact, I would argue that&#039;s probably good!), but just FYI.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personally, I think the pvSCSI is the way to go in most use cases, particularly now that the boot virtual disk limitation has been lifted in vSphere 4 u1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disclosure (I&#39;m an EMC employee)</p>
<p>Scott &#8211; we&#39;ve been doing lots of testing with pvSCSI &#8211; it is awesome, as you point out.</p>
<p>The one thing to watch out for is that we&#39;ve seen a lot of variability in the test results &#8211; and it seems (need to triple validate this) that the pvSCSI does some host-side read caching.    </p>
<p>That doesn&#39;t make it bad (in fact, I would argue that&#39;s probably good!), but just FYI.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the pvSCSI is the way to go in most use cases, particularly now that the boot virtual disk limitation has been lifted in vSphere 4 u1.</p>
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